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Where to buy organic meats in Ottawa?
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Bob Humphries
2004-01-25 05:45:10 UTC
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Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
wumpygirl
2004-01-25 06:09:05 UTC
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Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
Saslove's Meat Market, 1333 Wellington Street. Sells organic meat, including
caribou, muskox, beef, pork, lamb, sausages, bacon, ham and deli meats. The
wild meat comes from the Arctic. Domestic meat comes from Guelph. Phone
722-0086.
Ramboyd
2004-01-25 15:53:43 UTC
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Post by wumpygirl
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
Saslove's Meat Market, 1333 Wellington Street. Sells organic meat, including
caribou, muskox, beef, pork, lamb, sausages, bacon, ham and deli meats. The
wild meat comes from the Arctic. Domestic meat comes from Guelph. Phone
722-0086.
Many butchers have an organic option. Even Roblaws has an organic section. Be
prepared $$$$$$$$$$$$$

Ramboyd
steph
2004-01-25 07:08:14 UTC
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Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
Keenan Wellar
2004-01-25 07:35:47 UTC
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Post by steph
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
I've got to assume it's a reference to wait they are fed.
Susan
2004-01-25 14:22:01 UTC
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Post by Keenan Wellar
Post by steph
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
I've got to assume it's a reference to wait they are fed.
No herbicides or pesticides used in the growing of their grain or hay -
and no antibiotics mixed in. The animals can still be treated with
antibiotics if they're ill, but they have to be kept out of the food
chain for much longer than required for non-organic meats.

Susan
George Burnt
2004-01-26 01:44:35 UTC
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I don't know about today, but 15 years ago, the only difference was the
label. There was no official definition of "organic"

Scientifically "organic" means it comes from once living tissue. So it is
all "organic" If a cow is brought up organically it means that all the
drugs, herbicides, pesticide, antibiotics, poisons, etc come from once
living tissue. Just as bleach, and ammonia and shit are all "organic".
Although it would be expensive to test, I bet if you brought an "organic"
steak and a regular steak to be tested, they would find no difference.

GB
Agriculturist for 22 years
Marine biologist for 22 years
biologist for 22 years
Structural engineer for 22 years
(fill in the blank) for 22 years... be nice now
Post by Susan
Post by Keenan Wellar
Post by steph
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
I've got to assume it's a reference to wait they are fed.
No herbicides or pesticides used in the growing of their grain or hay -
and no antibiotics mixed in. The animals can still be treated with
antibiotics if they're ill, but they have to be kept out of the food
chain for much longer than required for non-organic meats.
Susan
~ Darrell Larose ~
2004-01-25 17:11:53 UTC
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Post by steph
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
I suspect because of mad Cow, They aren't feed brains ... after all a mind
is a terrible thing to taste...
Lacy
2004-01-25 12:00:37 UTC
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Post by steph
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
Organic meat is made from animals that have been raised on a pure organic
diet -- nothing but organic feed and pasture. This means they are never fed
rendered animal by-products that could have been contaminated with Mad Cow
Disease. Organic meat is produced without genetic modification of the
animal or food ingredients,
no; antibiotics, hormones in beef production, pesticides, herbicides,
fungicides or synthetic fertilizers.
In addition, animals aren't confined and are provided outdoor access to
pasture (free-range).
It disturbs the local environment as little as possible (no clear cutting
etc).
Rick
2004-01-25 12:38:57 UTC
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This organic meat would be more expensive than your regular meats.
Post by Lacy
Post by steph
Post by Bob Humphries
Is there a store/butcher in the Ottawa area, or does one have to
travel a bit out of town?
What is organic meat ? What's the difference with "non-organic".
Organic meat is made from animals that have been raised on a pure organic
diet -- nothing but organic feed and pasture. This means they are never fed
rendered animal by-products that could have been contaminated with Mad Cow
Disease. Organic meat is produced without genetic modification of the
animal or food ingredients,
no; antibiotics, hormones in beef production, pesticides, herbicides,
fungicides or synthetic fertilizers.
In addition, animals aren't confined and are provided outdoor access to
pasture (free-range).
It disturbs the local environment as little as possible (no clear cutting
etc).
Arty Choke Hearts
2004-01-25 13:27:54 UTC
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Post by Rick
This organic meat would be more expensive than your regular meats.
What a time we live in, when "regular meat" is the meat from the animals
that have had an unsuitable diet.
Rick
2004-01-25 14:04:27 UTC
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Ya organic is there really a diffrence...........pay more money for the same
shit. I work beside a granola head and it pisses me off when she eats her
little organic shit........then goes to the mall and brings back a chineese
dinner frome the fast food joint..........lol

To me meat is meat..............this is the 2000 yr and everyone is freaking
. Eat what you want and exercise and all will be ok.

Well do not eat meat from infected countries.....and all will be ok.
Post by Arty Choke Hearts
Post by Rick
This organic meat would be more expensive than your regular meats.
What a time we live in, when "regular meat" is the meat from the animals
that have had an unsuitable diet.
Ramboyd
2004-01-25 16:05:23 UTC
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Post by Rick
Ya organic is there really a diffrence...........pay more money for the same
shit. I work beside a granola head and it pisses me off when she eats her
little organic shit........then goes to the mall and brings back a chineese
dinner frome the fast food joint..........lol
To me meat is meat..............this is the 2000 yr and everyone is freaking
. Eat what you want and exercise and all will be ok.
Well do not eat meat from infected countries.....and all will be ok.
I've tried organic and the difference is phenomenal. Too expensive for my taste
though. I don't
see the point in eating organic unless you eat everything organic. For the most
part, I just quit
eating meat. I have a habit of eating dinner while watching the news. Some of
the reports have
ruined many a meal.

Ramboyd
Eunoia Eigensinn
2004-01-25 17:24:35 UTC
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Rick;

While I do agree that your colleague does sound like an air-head who really
doesn't have a clue as to what she sticks into her mouth, there actually is a
discernable difference in the quality of "organic" and "regular" meats.

Obviously, an animal which spends its life in a confined space where it has very
little opportunity to get any exercise (not unlike many Ottawans I suppose)
is going to have flaccid muscle tissue and a lot of fat.

The taste of any animal flesh has much to do with the amount of blood flowing to
it. That's why the most flavourful cuts are also usually the "toughest" cuts (ie
well-exercised muscle tissue like shank cuts).
And that's also why free-range animals taste better than those which spend all
of their lives cooped up in pens or cages.

Aside from the issue of taste, there's also the issue of concentration of
pesticide and herbicide residues.

Since cattle are near the top of the food chain, the concentrations of toxins
will be directly proportional to the amount of feed it has eaten which was grown
using pesticides and herbicides, or if the animal was fed animal-based protein,
the potential concentrations of toxins will obviously be exponentially greater.

A confined animal will necessarily be raised on feed which the farmer has either
purchased or grown. If you take a moment to think about how most modern farmers
grow corn, soy beans, cereal grains etc. you will realise how much different
feed produced from such crops will be from untreated pasture lands where animals
are allowed to graze for all of there lives.

"Organic" meats need not cost more.

Many of the small family farms around Ottawa still raise their cattle the old-
fashioned way (ie they let their animals spend their lives in open pasture) and
if one purchases one's groceries at one of the smaller, family-run outlets which
buys its meat from local producers, there's a good chance that you'll be getting
"organic" meat. All you have to do is have a look (assuming that you know what
to look for) and it should be obvious, or if in doubt, ask the store owner where
the meat came from.

If you were to meet one of the animals who has spent its life in open pasture,
you would immediately see a difference between it and a creature who has spent
its life in a feedlot.
Post by Rick
Ya organic is there really a diffrence...........pay more money for the same
shit. I work beside a granola head and it pisses me off when she eats her
little organic shit........then goes to the mall and brings back a chineese
dinner frome the fast food joint..........lol
To me meat is meat..............this is the 2000 yr and everyone is freaking
.. Eat what you want and exercise and all will be ok.
Well do not eat meat from infected countries.....and all will be ok.
Post by Arty Choke Hearts
Post by Rick
This organic meat would be more expensive than your regular meats.
What a time we live in, when "regular meat" is the meat from the animals
that have had an unsuitable diet.
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